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		<title>By: arnold zwicky</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From my nouning files:

&lt;i&gt;cite&lt;/i&gt; ‘citation’ and &lt;i&gt;quote&lt;/i&gt; ‘quotation’ [could be clipping rather than nouning]

AMZ comment on LLog “My ask”:
&lt;blockquote&gt;To Andy Hollandbeck, and amplifying a little on language hat&#039;s comment: this use of &quot;cite&quot; is in common use by lexicographers and others searching corpora for citations; &quot;two cites&quot; has appeared on Language Log here (from me) and here (from Mark Liberman), and searches for &quot;cite&quot; in other contexts would undoubtedly turn up many more on Language Log. It is widely used on the American Dialect Society mailing list, which is probably where I picked it up, and on the Eggcorn Data Base.

(The noun &quot;cite&quot; is in NOAD2 but not AHD4.)

As with the noun &quot;ask&quot; (vs. &quot;request&quot;), the noun &quot;cite&quot; has advantages over the alternatives (&quot;citation&quot; and &quot;quotation&quot;/&quot;quote&quot;), in that it is more specific that they are and ties the word to a particular context (in this case, lexicography). And of course it&#039;s shorter.

MWDEU has a nice entry for the noun &quot;quote&quot;, by the way, which has been around since at least 1888 and has been strongly disapproved of by some commentators, though MWDEU notes that it &quot;is now widely used in standard if mostly casual writing&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The noun &lt;i&gt;cite&lt;/i&gt; is in OED3 (Sept. 2002), where it&#039;s treated as a clipping of &lt;i&gt;citation&lt;/i&gt;. Cites (chuckle) from 1957.

My notes on &lt;i&gt;invite&lt;/i&gt;: in OED2, marked colloquial, with cites from 1659 on; etymological note to cf. command, request, etc.
&lt;blockquote&gt;New Scientist, 20 June 2009, p. 35: “Joe’s status as an AIDS dissident won him an invite [to Peter Duesberg’s laboratory].&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my nouning files:</p>
<p><i>cite</i> ‘citation’ and <i>quote</i> ‘quotation’ [could be clipping rather than nouning]</p>
<p>AMZ comment on LLog “My ask”:</p>
<blockquote><p>To Andy Hollandbeck, and amplifying a little on language hat&#8217;s comment: this use of &#8220;cite&#8221; is in common use by lexicographers and others searching corpora for citations; &#8220;two cites&#8221; has appeared on Language Log here (from me) and here (from Mark Liberman), and searches for &#8220;cite&#8221; in other contexts would undoubtedly turn up many more on Language Log. It is widely used on the American Dialect Society mailing list, which is probably where I picked it up, and on the Eggcorn Data Base.</p>
<p>(The noun &#8220;cite&#8221; is in NOAD2 but not AHD4.)</p>
<p>As with the noun &#8220;ask&#8221; (vs. &#8220;request&#8221;), the noun &#8220;cite&#8221; has advantages over the alternatives (&#8220;citation&#8221; and &#8220;quotation&#8221;/&#8221;quote&#8221;), in that it is more specific that they are and ties the word to a particular context (in this case, lexicography). And of course it&#8217;s shorter.</p>
<p>MWDEU has a nice entry for the noun &#8220;quote&#8221;, by the way, which has been around since at least 1888 and has been strongly disapproved of by some commentators, though MWDEU notes that it &#8220;is now widely used in standard if mostly casual writing&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>The noun <i>cite</i> is in OED3 (Sept. 2002), where it&#8217;s treated as a clipping of <i>citation</i>. Cites (chuckle) from 1957.</p>
<p>My notes on <i>invite</i>: in OED2, marked colloquial, with cites from 1659 on; etymological note to cf. command, request, etc.</p>
<blockquote><p>New Scientist, 20 June 2009, p. 35: “Joe’s status as an AIDS dissident won him an invite [to Peter Duesberg’s laboratory].</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Thomas Chacko</title>
		<link>http://arnoldzwicky.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/informate/#comment-6274</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you think about forms like &quot;cites&quot; -- which you yourself use in your present blog-- and &quot;invites&quot; in place of &quot;citation&quot; and &quot;invitation&#039; respedtively? Are they backformations, examples of clipping, or examples of using verbs as nouns?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think about forms like &#8220;cites&#8221; &#8212; which you yourself use in your present blog&#8211; and &#8220;invites&#8221; in place of &#8220;citation&#8221; and &#8220;invitation&#8217; respedtively? Are they backformations, examples of clipping, or examples of using verbs as nouns?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Preston</title>
		<link>http://arnoldzwicky.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/informate/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Preston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&amp;hs=H94&amp;q=%22thanks+for+explanating+%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;explanating&lt;/a&gt; that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&amp;hs=H94&amp;q=%22thanks+for+explanating+%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=" rel="nofollow">explanating</a> that.</p>
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